In general, forgiveness needs to be shown much more readily than in the org. It is the overuse or misuse of punishment that needs to be looked at seriously. In the case of a child abuser, too much punishment is never enough.
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Is the Watchtower is blind to Jesus' teachings?
by Fernando injesus ate with common sinners declaring that they were in (matt 21:31).. jesus denounced religious leaders declaring that they were out (matt 23 esp v15).. still the watchtower persists in making their own determinations, according to their own rules, who is in and who is out (prov 17:15).
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this is why the apostate watchtower ruling religious clergy class and hierarchy surreptitiously and contemptuously hate and obfuscate the unabridged gospel which teaches that a right and clean standing is imputed on the basis of grace (faith) and not merit (works).. are their similar instances that come to mind for you?.
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POLL: Will You Be Attending The Memorial & If You Are---Why?
by minimus ini was just invited.
i thanked my old elder friend and he left.
(i'm not going).
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Nope, celebrating missing our second one this year. A nice bottle of Ricadonna Ruby and a cheese platter for us. Oh and some chocolate for Mr Awake at last and Miss Awake at last. -
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...If The "WBT$ GB Rock Star Popes" Sold Their Watches...
by OUTLAW inwbt$ gb rock star popes and their fancy watches... .. are "extremely expensive" rolex watches being forced on the wbt$ rock star popes?!!...
are the watches just rolex "knock offs" so the wbt$ gb rock star popes only "appear wealthy"?!...
.. geoffrey jackson.
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The two sisters outside the African KH look happier and more genuine than any Rolex wearing GB member. I'll bet they sleep better at night too on their homemade grass beds than the GB on their expensive innerspring or latex mattresses. -
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With two questions, i recieved two lies from some cart witnesses.
by brandnew intoday i walked up to a group of cart witnesses and picked up a watchtower.
i opened the watchtower up to the first page , and asked one of the witnesses if he had read it.. lie # 1... he said he read it.. i ask my second question to a woman witness sitting next to him , who by the way was hard to tear away from her cell phone..... "whats this watchtower about?
, "........ lie # 2 ... she said she read it , but forgot "exactly" what the main points were about..
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The mags are only half the size now and they still can't get around to reading them, or if they do they can't remember what was in them. Geez, it must be exciting reading......lifesaving too Lol -
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When do you visit this site to view and post?
by stuckinarut2 inhey all,.
i'm curious about the times and places we all come and check in on this great forum.. is it after a long day at work while having a drink, or during the work day on your mobile tablets, or quickly in-between family evenings etc...?.
do most "hide" their tracks when using the family computer, perhaps using "private browsing"?.
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After dinner at night. The best time though for me is early hours of the morning because that is when the American and UK posters are awake and posting, so most activity then. It is 8.20pm in NSW Australia at the moment and not much happening. -
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What backlash could you expect by telling everyone you 'hate the Caleb cartoons'?
by Esse quam videri inwhat kind of response could you expect if you let everyone in your congregation know that.
"... i hate those stupid caleb cartoons.
i hate his crazy mother.
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I think from what I am reading here and from past experiences, they would try to correct your thinking on just about anything GB approved......even a family of cartoon characters.
You would probably be shown more tolerance if you said you didn't like a Bible character.
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Before knowing TTATT did you really believe in things as...
by roberto avon indid you really believe in things as ;- the earth is only 6000 years old- the 144.000- 1914, based upon the destructiono of jerusalem- harmagheddon or the end of the world coming soon???
?i married a jw when i was an interested person and studying with the jw's ( not the way they wanted) but i told my wife before marrying her that " most probably " i would never have been a jw.she accepted me as i was and married me.
after that i had interrupted the study for one year, i started all over again with an elder of my wife's cong.
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I was born in in 1962 and believed it verbatim, after all my father said it was true and he had checked out other religions so it must be. I always doubted that I would survive Armageddon even though I was not really a bad person, just spiritually weak and did not have a pioneering spirit or even just a door to door spirit.
As I grew up, I still believed in Armageddon but did not think about whether other things were right or wrong, I just did what I had always done. I noticed problems such as lack of love in the cong and I always seemed to be on the outside looking in. In 1995, I visited Brooklyn Bethel. Something there just did not sit right with me although I had always wanted to go there. I did not regret spending a whole day of my time in the US at Bethel but the slacking off began after that.
My father, I think may have been having some doubts also. I can't ask him as he is deceased, but before he passed away, according to mum, he stopped reading the society's publications and read only the Bible and did only meeting prep from the WT, etc. He has been gone over 16 years now and I do know for sure that if he was still alive, he would be very interested in what I have been researching on this site and others. He would be very open to TTATT. In fact if he was resurrected like the people on the TV series, he would be absolutely shocked to know he has been dead 16 years.
i have learnt so much in the past 6 months. I had not been to a meeting since the memorial of 2013 but only began looking into it 6 months ago. A few things bothered me such as shunning D/F young ones, JW's only ones to survive Armageddon, uncaring attitudes of elders, Bethel bros, etc. The main thing that stopped me was the uncaring attitude towards the elderly, in particular my mother. Then I found out it was a widespread problem. Don't even start me on child abuse!
Sorry my rant is so long. I have, like so many others, put many years into the org, not so much as a pioneer but just in my everyday life, always thinking before I bought clothes, saving money for conventions, being separate from others at school and work. Now my life is much less of a burden. The Bible says that my yoke is kindly and my load is light. That was not the case in the JW's. Now I can buy more fashionable clothes, get a piercing if I want to. I still subconsciously think about what I should do then remind myself that I am free now.
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Be cautious about the excessive use of the most-favored medicine called paracetamol, say studies!
by abiather instudies have found an increased risk of mortality, up to 63 percent, among long-term paracetamol users, compared to those who had not been prescribed the drug during the study period (http://www.interaksyon.com/article/106187/long-term-paracetamol-use-poses-risk-says-study).
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Afrikanman
I suffered from migraines from the time I was 8. About 5 years ago someone told me about Magnesium tablets. You take them each day, not just when you have a migraine or feel one coming on. I still get them now and then but not as much or anything like as severe. It has changed my life, a bit like leaving the JW's. It's worth a try anyway.
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Adverts
by New day injust noticed that one of the ads that keeps popping up on my page (but only when i am on this site) is for a company called ministry ideas which sells all sorts of folders etc.
for use in the ministry by witnesses.
i have looked up this site at times and am appalled at the crass commercialism of it, but ironic that it appears when browsing on this site!
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I've seen the ads for ministry ideas too and agree with you about the commercialism of it. Someone is doing OK off the gullible witnesses who buy their junk. -
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Wife just found out I won't be attending the Memorial this year!
by FadeToBlack inmy wife is staying with 'friends' out of town recovering from surgery on her foot.
i called to see how she was healing up and mentioned that i hope she gets back on her feet before i leave for the states to visit family (all non-witness) in april.
i begged her to postpone this surgery until i got back, but she did not forsee any problems.we will see.. anyway, it dawned on her that i won't be here to attend the memorial and she said: you are probably happy about that.
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That is OK to say, "Wait on Jehovah", in child abuse cases, but the children in this organisation cannot wait on Jehovah for even one more day, that is how serious this is. TODAY is the day to take decisive action on this matter. TODAY is the day to walk out and take your children with you or just walk out yourself. Vote with your feet, your brains and most importantly your money. Get out of her my people if you do not want to share in her sins (crimes).